ATTN: Vegetarian Nutjobs! Vegan couple sentenced to life in prison after death of malnourished baby![views:12789][posts:122]____________________________________ [May 9,2007 4:03pm - sacreligion ""] http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574603/?GT1=9951 ATLANTA - A vegan couple were sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for the death of their malnourished 6-week-old baby boy, who was fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice. Superior Court Judge L.A. McConnell imposed the mandatory sentences on Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31. Their son, Crown Shakur, weighed just 3 1/2 pounds when he died of starvation on April 25, 2004. The couple were found guilty May 2 of malice murder, felony murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty to children. A jury deliberated about seven hours before returning the guilty verdicts. |
| ___________________________________ [May 9,2007 4:07pm - RichHorror ""] Good. All children should be murdered. |
| ____________________________________ [May 9,2007 4:08pm - xanonymousx ""] thats a sad story. |
| ________________________________________________ [May 9,2007 4:21pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Well it even says on soymilk "NOT TO BE USED AS INFANT FORMULA" some people are idiots |
| _________________________________________ [May 9,2007 4:29pm - largefreakatzero ""] Maybe it was for the best. Just think of the misery of having to go through life with the name "Crown Shakur". |
| _______________________________ [May 9,2007 6:49pm - Ryan_M ""] Haha, I thought Crown Shakur was a fucked up name too. But that's the kind of shit I'd expect from some hippie, holier-than-thou vegan assholes who think they and their kid are extra special because they choose not to use animal products. |
| _______________________________________ [May 9,2007 6:51pm - DomesticTerror ""] who cares? They're from Georgia. btw, not to split hairs, but they're vegan, not vegetarian. |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 6:56pm - ZJD ""] The couple had two other vegan kids who are fine and they clearly had no idea what they were doing. Veganism is perfectly healthy, this is just bad parenting. |
| _______________________________________ [May 9,2007 6:58pm - DomesticTerror ""] the article says that they were first time parents. |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 7:02pm - ZJD ""] Oh. Maybe I should read it. I thought I remembered reading another one recently where they had two other kids. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 7:40pm - CUNT ""] hahahahahahhaha,, vegans.... hahahahahhahaha |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 8:31pm - pam ""] You'd think the mother would have breast fed, the kid would have been fine. They're obviously fucking loons because no SANE parents would have a 3.5lb kid and think nothing was wrong. Fucking assholes. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 8:42pm - Hoser ""] Well, then again.....vegans aren't really all that smart to begin with. Veganism is much like Christianity and religion in general. It's an semi-organized bunch of nutjobs with the same beliefs shitting on those who do not believe. They should all fucking hang as far as I'm concerned. Just like the Earth First assholes burning down car dealerships and buildings because the owners of said edifaces don't share the same beliefs. They are extremist nutjobs no different than radical muslims, southern baptists, devout Catholics, or any other retarded religion. Vegans just come up with a different stupid excuse for their moronic actions. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 8:45pm - Lamp ""] Ryan_M said:Haha, I thought Crown Shakur was a fucked up name too. But that's the kind of shit I'd expect from some hippie, holier-than-thou vegan assholes who think they and their kid are extra special because they choose not to use animal products. Holier than thou asshole hippies? Come on, if you don't believe in Christianity you wouldn't send your kid to a church. Not believing in eating animal products and therfore not feeding your kid any is the same thing. The prosecution attorney made the best point, that the kid died because he wasn't fed, period. Do you think you or anybody would be able to live on a diet consisting of soymilk and apple juice? Of course not. This has nothing to do with them being vegan, it has to do with them being retarded. It is also true that soymilk says on the side of it that it's not to be used as infant formula. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 8:47pm - Lamp ""] Hoser said:*the usual retarded blather* Yeah dude, you totally said it. All vegans burn down car dealerships and factory farms in their spare lives and have nothing else to do with their days. None of them have jobs or friends or family that they pay attention to, they just wake up in the morning and protest violently to people in an attempt to change the way they think. :spineyes::spineyes::spineyes: |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:06pm - Hoser ""] No, but they bring their worthless asses up to Portsmouth, NH and lay in styrofoam meat packs wrapped in plastic in the middle of our streets with a pricetag on the wrapper and think that people actually give a shit. As if a meateater would walk by and say, "You know honey, they really do have a point, meat is torture." Too bad some drunk hick doesn't veer sharply off of the road and splatter their useless propaganda spreading asses all over our cobblestones. That would be fucking priceless. Get bent. :spineyes::spineyes::spineyes: |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:08pm - Hoser ""] Just in case you need proof. http://www.seacoastcareers.com/news/7_11index.htm |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:10pm - Lamp ""] You're taking the actions of a couple people and saying that's how everyone acts. That's fucking stupid. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:10pm - Hoser ""] Again.....Vegans need to get fucking bent. I have 1....I repeat......1 Vegan friend. He used to preach until we abused him so badly that he finally SHUT THE FUCK UP about his gay beliefs and GAY DIET. We were friends after that....end of story. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:11pm - Hoser ""] Eat meat, be a normal human being, and quit yer fucking whining. That's my advice to vegans. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:11pm - Hoser ""] Oh, and get a job. I don't know one vegan with a job. |
| ____________________________________ [May 9,2007 9:13pm - xanonymousx ""] it sadis passerby was at this protest. peta is wack most of the people in it i don't understand their extreme actions. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:13pm - Lamp ""] Hoser said:*more conjecture, stereotypes, and general thickheadedness I can't comprehend* Arguing with you is like banging my head against a brick wall over and over again. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:21pm - Hoser ""] No, arguing with me is like trying to drink the ocean with a teaspoon. Eventually you may get your point across, but not likely. Veganism is a lame culture full of idiots trying to be different. You need a hobby, because nobody really gives a shit about your diet or clothing preferences. Try arguing something that anyone other than yourself gives a shit about, then you may gain some sort of credibility. Until then, Imma go eat my HAM steak and POLENTA smothered in BUTTER. I'll be here if you need me though....my polenta is still FRYING next to my MEAT. Which is on the stove that is near my LEATHER HUNTING boots. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:31pm - Hoser ""] Aside from all of that... How many lives of voles, moles, field mice, rabbits, and birds has the harvesting of your precious soy crops taken? Doesn't ssound truly vegan to me. Maybe you should resort to eating your own hair. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:36pm - ZJD ""] Hoser said: Veganism is a lame culture full of idiots trying to be different. You need a hobby, because nobody really gives a shit about your diet or clothing preferences. There are people like that in any culture/subculture/etc. Plently of people listen to metal to appear tough, it doesn't mean everyone does. I've said it before and I'll say it a million more times; vegans don't eat animal products because they aren't down with aiding a holocaust. Get all bent out of shape over my use of the H word if you want, but it is true. Do you seriously think that nobody doesn't support factory farming because it's horrible and they all really just want to be cool/different? What about vegan metalfolk that will get nothing but shit from the metal community for being a pussy? What about vegans in the deep south? |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:40pm - ZJD ""] Hoser said:Aside from all of that... How many lives of voles, moles, field mice, rabbits, and birds has the harvesting of your precious soy crops taken? Doesn't ssound truly vegan to me. Maybe you should resort to eating your own hair. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill You brought this up last time and it was a piss poor argument then, too. None of those field mice and rabbits led tortured lives or were born into imprisonment. Also, suggesting that the alternative to eating plants that the harvesting of kills wild animals is to eat the meat of tortured animals that are fed way more plant food than all of the crops grown for humans combined that are harvested in the same way is fucking stupid. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:41pm - Hoser ""] Soooo.....if the animals are killed by accident it's ok? |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:42pm - Hoser ""] If their homes and habitat are torn apart by a combine it's ok? |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:44pm - Hoser ""] The Vegan argument is a ridiculously stupid one and selfish as well. We're all stupid and selfish.....we're human. As soon as you thick skulled dildo's get that fact through your self-righteous skulls, the sooner your lame movement will die and we'll all get along again. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:46pm - Hoser ""] Until then, enjoy being different.....until you have kids of your own to raise and nurture. Ooops.....3 1/2lbs.....almost forgot, some of you are HARD CORPS! |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:46pm - ZJD ""] Death is okay. If a lion kills a gazelle to eat I have no problem. If a 99 year old man dies of old age I have no problem. I also have no problem with how the native americans lived. I do, however, have a huge problem with entire species bred and born into imprisonment and torture. I don't eat meat because I don't want to and don't have to, but I see nothing inherently wrong with killing animals for food. I do not believe meat is murder, but suggesting that the field mice thing or hunting or whatever is even close to the same as factory farming is crazy. |
| ______________________________ [May 9,2007 9:49pm - Hoser ""] Ok, well then please enlighten me with YOUR solution to factory farming. How do you propose we feed 650,000,000 people? |
| ____________________________ [May 9,2007 9:52pm - ZJD ""] Well, if factory farming was abolished, or even decreased by a bunch, there would be no need for 80 percent of all american crops to go to the factory animals. Half that land could grow enough food to feed the whole world. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 10:00pm - ZJD ""] Also, I've seen you bitch about vegans on her many times, but I've never seen you give any reasons for why veganism is dumb better than "vegans smell" or "vegans are emo". |
| _______________________________ [May 9,2007 10:03pm - Hoser ""] and mal-nourish us all or would you be the guy to "teach" the whole worl how to live your lifestyle? It would be like teaching retards not to be retarded. It wouldn't work. Meat eating is part of being human....and don't try to tell me that vegans don't have to learn to substitute things with vitamins and "alternative" sources. I do have a vegan friend who has told me the truth about being vegan and he admits that it's not easy. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 10:06pm - ZJD ""] Veganism is incredibly easy. Your comment about vegans being malnourished is baseless. All vitamins/minerals/etc humans need to thrive can be found in plants. Do you have any sources for this shit better than your buddy? Also, if you had actually read my post you would know that I don't think killing for food is wrong. Getting rid of factory farms does not get rid of hunting. |
| _______________________________ [May 9,2007 10:30pm - Hoser ""] So you intend on teaching the low income families of our fair cities how to live vegan? Should we include it in our school curriculums? You know, for the low income families that live in cities and cant get out and learn to hunt? |
| _______________________________ [May 9,2007 10:30pm - Hoser ""] See what I'm saying? There are more holes in the Vegan argument than swiss cheese. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 10:33pm - ZJD ""] Everyone should learn proper nutrition anyway, and it is not more expensive to have a vegan diet. There is no more danger of being a sickly vegan than there is of being a sickly omnivore. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 10:34pm - ZJD ""] Hoser said:See what I'm saying? There are more holes in the Vegan argument than swiss cheese. The only holes I can see are in your alleged knowledge on the subject. All your arguments are stupid. |
| _____________________________________ [May 9,2007 10:44pm - Mike_Giallo ""] I have one vegan friend and a couple of vegeterian ones. The vegan one says it is easy to live vegan since they have substitutes for pretty much any food you could imagine. But he also says it's really expensive and mostly everything tastes like shit. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 10:48pm - ZJD ""] Mike_Giallo said:I have one vegan friend and a couple of vegeterian ones. The vegan one says it is easy to live vegan since they have substitutes for pretty much any food you could imagine. But he also says it's really expensive and mostly everything tastes like shit. Most mock meats and cheeses suck, but vegan margarine and soymilk are a-okay. Everything else I eat is eaten by omnivores. Meat is expensive. |
| _____________________________ [May 9,2007 11:16pm - an ""] :happymac::skull::duffbeer::shocked::happymac::gun::yoda::point::cd::NEWHORNS::shocker: |
| _____________________________________ [May 10,2007 12:24am - RichHorror ""] I'm vegetarian. I feel less like bloated shit since becoming one. That's all the reason I need. |
| ______________________________________ [May 10,2007 12:37am - sacreligion ""] now that's horrific! |
| ______________________________ [May 10,2007 1:09am - Lamp ""] Hoser said:I do have a vegan friend who has told me the truth about being vegan and he admits that it's not easy. Maybe the reason it's not easy for him is because he's surrounded by you and all your asshole friends who keep calling him a pussy at every turn for the way he decided to live his own life. It is true that there are substitutes out there for everything you could imagine, not to mention a lot of the crap food out there that's already vegan(Oreos, Fritos, Twizzlers, Swedish fish, etc.). I don't eat meat but I'm while I'm not a vegan I do have some tendencies, ie. I drink soymilk(I honestly think it tastes better), I will avoid dairy if I don't have to eat it but sometimes I'm just lazy. Some stuff can still be made too(like pizza) but it just has to be made with different ingredients. Probably the reason it's expensive has more to do with the demand for it. They hide all the organic stuff in the grocery store or maybe they just have different stores for it altogether because people can just get their brand name shit easier. It's all just a matter of willpower, really. |
| _____________________________ [May 10,2007 1:42am - ZJD ""] Lamp said:Hoser said:I do have a vegan friend who has told me the truth about being vegan and he admits that it's not easy. Maybe the reason it's not easy for him is because he's surrounded by you and all your asshole friends who keep calling him a pussy at every turn for the way he decided to live his own life. It is true that there are substitutes out there for everything you could imagine, not to mention a lot of the crap food out there that's already vegan(Oreos, Fritos, Twizzlers, Swedish fish, etc.). I don't eat meat but I'm while I'm not a vegan I do have some tendencies, ie. I drink soymilk(I honestly think it tastes better), I will avoid dairy if I don't have to eat it but sometimes I'm just lazy. Some stuff can still be made too(like pizza) but it just has to be made with different ingredients. Probably the reason it's expensive has more to do with the demand for it. They hide all the organic stuff in the grocery store or maybe they just have different stores for it altogether because people can just get their brand name shit easier. It's all just a matter of willpower, really. Really, I think the only reason for it to be more expensive is when people can't/don't cook and want to just eat premade things. A box of veggie burgers, tofurkey products, and the like will add up quickly. Things like Tofu, Seitan, Tempeh, and Gluten are better than fake meats anyway (in my opinion) and don't have to be expensive. Gluten is incredibly easy and cheap to make yourself. I like you because you aren't dumb you bitch well. |
| ______________________________ [May 10,2007 1:54am - Lamp ""] Yeah. I went into an organic grocery store the other day that had a pretty limited selection(I would have to drive 20 minutes to Providence to get to the nearest Whole Foods) and I didn't buy a lot but wound up spending almost 30 bucks. I'm guessing that had just as much to do with the place being a small business. I do dig tofu a lot though, haven't had seitan before but am interested in trying it, I've seen it used in some recipe for fake Italian beef sandwiches or something like that. I didn't understand why someone would want to stop eating meat for the longest time ever, but the first time I actually tried to do it, while I only lasted a week and a half, I realized just how much food I'd overlook and how meat was basically everywhere. It gets disturbing to think of the mass quantities of animals being raised into slaughter after a while for that. There are probably more animals killed in a day than a regular hunter could kill in a decade, if I had to guess. |
| _____________________________ [May 10,2007 1:59am - ZJD ""] Well, buying a bunch of organic produce can be expenisve, but vegan =/= organic. I think seitan and gluten are basically the same thing, you can get canned gluten chunks for way cheap in asain markets or bags/boxes of different kinds of gluten hunks or flavored seitan for more money. I think seitan might just be flavored baked gluten, i'm not sure, it seems the same to me. |